mcmike
02-01-2010, 02:57 PM
Over the past two months I agonized over which new PCP to purchase. My final four choices were the FX Cyclone, FX Monsoon, Logun MKII and the Weihrauch HW100T. In the end I bought the HW100T because it was significantly different than my FX Black Widow and based on the recommendations of people who owned or had fired the HW100T. Thanks to jwaselus and mjfa for sharing their advice and experience with the HW100.
As I researched the HW100T I was amazed by the range of comments, many seemingly from people who had never held nor fired the rifle. Most of the negative comments on the HW100T centered around "too heavy", "no quick-fill", and "butt ugly". The positive comments from people who owned or fired the rifle spoke of "consistency", "accuracy" and "fantastic trigger".
Here are my thoughts after approximately 600 rounds:
1) Trigger - I now know why many shooters put so much value on a good trigger. The trigger on the HW100T just makes it easier to shoot tight groups. Five words capture my thoughts, crisp and smooth as silk. My fear is that this will be the trigger by which all my future rifles are judged. It feels and operates that well.
2) Cocking Lever: The cocking lever on the HW100T set it apart from any other rifle I have fired. The cocking mechanism is operated with two finger tips and can be done while the crosshairs are kept on target. Cocking the HW100T requires less effort than pushing down the lever on my toaster. The HW100 will not advance the magazine until the rifle is fired, thereby eliminating the possibility of loading two pellets.
3) Quality / Fit and Finish: The HW100T is a solid, quality rifle. Fit and finish on this rifle are what you would expect from German engineering. The stock is a nice piece of European walnut with a dark brown stain and good grain on the stock. The fore stock is perfectly flat and provides a stable platform for offhand or bench shots. Some have disliked the channels that run down the sides of the fore stock. This is a non-issue for me. I find the channels provide a good grip on the fore stock as checkering does on other rifles.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/SeaMike/IMG_0517-2.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/SeaMike/IMG_0498-2.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/SeaMike/IMG_0501-1.jpg
4) Cylinder: The cylinder is one place where Weihrauch can make improvements and my understanding is that a new cylinder will be available later this year. While the cylinder is clearly built for the long haul, it lacks a quick fill and is heavier than it needs to be. Having said that, I have found that unscrewing and reattaching the cylinder adds an average of 40 seconds to my fill time. Filling an unattached cylinder is somewhat easier than mating the fill probe from my scuba tank to the QF on an attached cylinder. The QF cylinder will improve this rifle.
5) Weight: The HW100T weights 8.58 pounds. I do not find the weight too much by any stretch. I find it interesting that people rave about Theoben Rapids, Logun MKII, Daystate Air Ranger, AA springers, Weihrauch springers etc. and donā€™t mention their 8- 9+ pound weights. Iā€™ve walked many fields with a loaded 12 gauge that makes my HW100T seem like a feather weight. It is all somewhat relative. I will say though, if the new cylinder with the QF is lighter I will not cry about it. But a savings of .5 to 1.0 lbs is not terribly significant to my way of thinking.
6) Accuracy and Shots per Fill: The HW100T is as accurate as the shooter. I really expected no less. I get 3 magazines of 14 rounds from a fill from 200bar down to 120bar. 42 rounds is what I expected based on my conversations with other HW100 owners. Where the HW100T sets itself apart, in my opinion, is in the POI consistency from shot #1 to shot #42. The POI just does not change. I believe this is the benefit of shooting a consistent regulated rifle.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/SeaMike/Shots004.jpg
7) Pellets: I have only fired JSB Heavies so far and I may not try anything else. My groups with the JSB's are tight and predictable. I will tell you though, the HW100T does not like Napier pellet lube. I shot the first tin of JSB's and lubed the second tin. Within 6 rounds I had unloaded the magazine and put the lubed pellets aside. The Napier made my shots wilder than a sailor on shore leave. Some right, some left and all two inches off the bullseye. Hope the Black Widow likes lubed pellets.
8) Using JSB Heavy, my HW100T is generating 25ft/lbs
10 shot strings. 200bar-120bar. L = Low H = High AV = Average ES = Extreme Spread SD = Standard Deviation
#1 L=833.2 H=842.6 AV=836.8 ES=9.34 SD=2.44
#2 L=824.0 H=833.7 AV=830.6 ES=9.65 SD=2.44
#3 L=827.8 H=838.0 AV=833.7 ES=10.26 SD=3.31
#4 L=828.2 H=838.4 AV=834.2 ES=10.20 SD=3.20
Final thoughts:
My number one priority for any airgun I own is accuracy and the ability to reproduce accuracy over a string of shots. The HW100T has shown what I believe to be superior accuracy and the ability to put shot after shot near the aim point with little or no shift in POI at 60yrds. I have enjoyed the feel of the gun and the ease of operating it. If I were to makes changes to the HW100T I would, add a QF cylinder and 10 more HW100 owners to this forum so we could concur that this is a great shooting rifle.
Hope you find this helpful and please let me know if you have any questions.
Mike
As I researched the HW100T I was amazed by the range of comments, many seemingly from people who had never held nor fired the rifle. Most of the negative comments on the HW100T centered around "too heavy", "no quick-fill", and "butt ugly". The positive comments from people who owned or fired the rifle spoke of "consistency", "accuracy" and "fantastic trigger".
Here are my thoughts after approximately 600 rounds:
1) Trigger - I now know why many shooters put so much value on a good trigger. The trigger on the HW100T just makes it easier to shoot tight groups. Five words capture my thoughts, crisp and smooth as silk. My fear is that this will be the trigger by which all my future rifles are judged. It feels and operates that well.
2) Cocking Lever: The cocking lever on the HW100T set it apart from any other rifle I have fired. The cocking mechanism is operated with two finger tips and can be done while the crosshairs are kept on target. Cocking the HW100T requires less effort than pushing down the lever on my toaster. The HW100 will not advance the magazine until the rifle is fired, thereby eliminating the possibility of loading two pellets.
3) Quality / Fit and Finish: The HW100T is a solid, quality rifle. Fit and finish on this rifle are what you would expect from German engineering. The stock is a nice piece of European walnut with a dark brown stain and good grain on the stock. The fore stock is perfectly flat and provides a stable platform for offhand or bench shots. Some have disliked the channels that run down the sides of the fore stock. This is a non-issue for me. I find the channels provide a good grip on the fore stock as checkering does on other rifles.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/SeaMike/IMG_0517-2.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/SeaMike/IMG_0498-2.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/SeaMike/IMG_0501-1.jpg
4) Cylinder: The cylinder is one place where Weihrauch can make improvements and my understanding is that a new cylinder will be available later this year. While the cylinder is clearly built for the long haul, it lacks a quick fill and is heavier than it needs to be. Having said that, I have found that unscrewing and reattaching the cylinder adds an average of 40 seconds to my fill time. Filling an unattached cylinder is somewhat easier than mating the fill probe from my scuba tank to the QF on an attached cylinder. The QF cylinder will improve this rifle.
5) Weight: The HW100T weights 8.58 pounds. I do not find the weight too much by any stretch. I find it interesting that people rave about Theoben Rapids, Logun MKII, Daystate Air Ranger, AA springers, Weihrauch springers etc. and donā€™t mention their 8- 9+ pound weights. Iā€™ve walked many fields with a loaded 12 gauge that makes my HW100T seem like a feather weight. It is all somewhat relative. I will say though, if the new cylinder with the QF is lighter I will not cry about it. But a savings of .5 to 1.0 lbs is not terribly significant to my way of thinking.
6) Accuracy and Shots per Fill: The HW100T is as accurate as the shooter. I really expected no less. I get 3 magazines of 14 rounds from a fill from 200bar down to 120bar. 42 rounds is what I expected based on my conversations with other HW100 owners. Where the HW100T sets itself apart, in my opinion, is in the POI consistency from shot #1 to shot #42. The POI just does not change. I believe this is the benefit of shooting a consistent regulated rifle.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/SeaMike/Shots004.jpg
7) Pellets: I have only fired JSB Heavies so far and I may not try anything else. My groups with the JSB's are tight and predictable. I will tell you though, the HW100T does not like Napier pellet lube. I shot the first tin of JSB's and lubed the second tin. Within 6 rounds I had unloaded the magazine and put the lubed pellets aside. The Napier made my shots wilder than a sailor on shore leave. Some right, some left and all two inches off the bullseye. Hope the Black Widow likes lubed pellets.
8) Using JSB Heavy, my HW100T is generating 25ft/lbs
10 shot strings. 200bar-120bar. L = Low H = High AV = Average ES = Extreme Spread SD = Standard Deviation
#1 L=833.2 H=842.6 AV=836.8 ES=9.34 SD=2.44
#2 L=824.0 H=833.7 AV=830.6 ES=9.65 SD=2.44
#3 L=827.8 H=838.0 AV=833.7 ES=10.26 SD=3.31
#4 L=828.2 H=838.4 AV=834.2 ES=10.20 SD=3.20
Final thoughts:
My number one priority for any airgun I own is accuracy and the ability to reproduce accuracy over a string of shots. The HW100T has shown what I believe to be superior accuracy and the ability to put shot after shot near the aim point with little or no shift in POI at 60yrds. I have enjoyed the feel of the gun and the ease of operating it. If I were to makes changes to the HW100T I would, add a QF cylinder and 10 more HW100 owners to this forum so we could concur that this is a great shooting rifle.
Hope you find this helpful and please let me know if you have any questions.
Mike